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CEO shares the No. 1 red flag he sees in job candidates: Always be careful with the ‘very smooth talkers'

Ranpak CEO Omar Asali
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Omar Asali isn't keen on hiring smooth talkers.

Workers who are too self-promotional and careful to say the "right words" usually look out for themselves, rather than their organization or the people around them — a red flag in the recruitment process, says Asali, 53, the CEO of eco-focused packaging company Ranpak.

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"You always have to be careful with people that are very smooth talkers and very promotional," says Asali, who's been running Ranpak — which has a market value of $661.06 million, as of Monday afternoon — since 2019. "I'm not hiring people because their presentation skills are phenomenal. I'm hiring them typically because I need certain tasks and certain jobs done."

At such a large company, Asali isn't always involved in every single hiring decision. But when he hires "very senior executives," he makes a point of discussing both work-related and non-work related topics with candidates. The better he gets to know them, the more easily he can identify whether they're "doers" or "talkers," he says.

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"I am not the type of person who will recruit because I've done one, two or three rounds," says Asali. "We will do meals, we will talk about social things — really try to understand these people and their background before I bring them over."

At the interviewing table, Asali often gives candidates a prompt that he calls "very insightful": Tell me 10 words that immediately come to mind that describe who you are. Most people respond quickly, and their off-the-cuff answers can illuminate aspects of their professional and social personality more effectively than anything they've prepared in advance for the interview, he says.

"The more honest they came across — the more sincere they came across — the more I enjoyed the conversation," says Asali. "You would be surprised with people I hired that were pretty open and vulnerable about things about themselves."

Asali isn't the only interviewer who asks questions that probe at people's self-awareness and ego control.

Kickstarter CEO Everette Taylor, for example, asks candidates to discuss a time they made a mistake or failed. People who recognize and take accountability for their shortcomings in their answer demonstrate a strong ability to work with others, he told CNBC Make It in August, whereas those lacking self-awareness "really struggle" with the prompt.

But few people, if any, are perfectly self-aware — which is why Taylor himself constantly works to get a better sense of his own strengths and weaknesses.

"I try to keep my ego at the door. I'm wrong all the time. I have an incredible team that's super smart and will put me in my place, and I love that," he said.

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